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		<title>By: Africanqueen</title>
		<link>http://www.shaunoakes.com/2008/09/how-much-should-you-pay-an-informal-car-guard/comment-page-1/#comment-52032</link>
		<dc:creator>Africanqueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t deserve any money!Since when is it a job? Stop suffering from White guilt!I chase them away,more people should do that,why accept them?We should shun them,show them that they are nothing and must fuck off and die!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t deserve any money!Since when is it a job? Stop suffering from White guilt!I chase them away,more people should do that,why accept them?We should shun them,show them that they are nothing and must fuck off and die!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: dylan</title>
		<link>http://www.shaunoakes.com/2008/09/how-much-should-you-pay-an-informal-car-guard/comment-page-1/#comment-52030</link>
		<dc:creator>dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..which I knew he would probably just use to buy more glue to sniff...&quot;

You an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..which I knew he would probably just use to buy more glue to sniff&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: zahir</title>
		<link>http://www.shaunoakes.com/2008/09/how-much-should-you-pay-an-informal-car-guard/comment-page-1/#comment-9350</link>
		<dc:creator>zahir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm Well Personally if its a place i frequent often i Wont give them a Cent! 
But if im in a high risk area i will probably give them at most a 50c.

With all the road taxes Car taxes license fees, Petrol taxes and everything else going up i tend to see them as an additional tax. I mean really how much do we have to keep handing out?? Robot begging? carguards? whats next? 

As Caz has stated, Thers no way in hell he would be able to help you should someone come up to you with a gun .
Bear in mind this has happened to me lots of times where you drive in park your car, Come back and the car guard is gone... was he really looking after your car? 

Also with regards to the so called &quot;help&quot; when reversing out of a parking... is he really helping you? or just waving his hands? 
If it was not for the PDC on my car i would have hit many a car behind me WITH the help of one of these so called guards.

There is no Guilt on my side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm Well Personally if its a place i frequent often i Wont give them a Cent!<br />
But if im in a high risk area i will probably give them at most a 50c.</p>
<p>With all the road taxes Car taxes license fees, Petrol taxes and everything else going up i tend to see them as an additional tax. I mean really how much do we have to keep handing out?? Robot begging? carguards? whats next? </p>
<p>As Caz has stated, Thers no way in hell he would be able to help you should someone come up to you with a gun .<br />
Bear in mind this has happened to me lots of times where you drive in park your car, Come back and the car guard is gone&#8230; was he really looking after your car? </p>
<p>Also with regards to the so called &#8220;help&#8221; when reversing out of a parking&#8230; is he really helping you? or just waving his hands?<br />
If it was not for the PDC on my car i would have hit many a car behind me WITH the help of one of these so called guards.</p>
<p>There is no Guilt on my side.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.shaunoakes.com/2008/09/how-much-should-you-pay-an-informal-car-guard/comment-page-1/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comments all round regarding the whole car guard situation. Sean&#039;s idea of having someone walking around with a gun sounds quite promising, it wouldn&#039;t have real bullets obviously, maybe those plastic pellets that can be used to scare off any informal guards trying to intimidate middle class shoppers into handing over change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments all round regarding the whole car guard situation. Sean&#8217;s idea of having someone walking around with a gun sounds quite promising, it wouldn&#8217;t have real bullets obviously, maybe those plastic pellets that can be used to scare off any informal guards trying to intimidate middle class shoppers into handing over change.</p>
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		<title>By: Caz</title>
		<link>http://www.shaunoakes.com/2008/09/how-much-should-you-pay-an-informal-car-guard/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Caz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have decided not to pay those F*&amp;%ers!!! A few days ago my friend gave this guy whatever little change she had and as we were getting into the car he THREW all the money he thought was useless at my car.

F^%&amp;ING CHEEK!!! I had to hold my friend down while speeding away because she wanted to end his miserable life. So that little shit ruined it for the rest of his drunk friends who smell like urine. NEVER AND NEVER AGAIN!!!

I pay nothing now because if someone wants to hijack you or tow your beloved-automobile that &#039;car-gaurd&#039; will be able to do NOTHING!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have decided not to pay those F*&amp;%ers!!! A few days ago my friend gave this guy whatever little change she had and as we were getting into the car he THREW all the money he thought was useless at my car.</p>
<p>F^%&amp;ING CHEEK!!! I had to hold my friend down while speeding away because she wanted to end his miserable life. So that little shit ruined it for the rest of his drunk friends who smell like urine. NEVER AND NEVER AGAIN!!!</p>
<p>I pay nothing now because if someone wants to hijack you or tow your beloved-automobile that &#8216;car-gaurd&#8217; will be able to do NOTHING!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Shaheen</title>
		<link>http://www.shaunoakes.com/2008/09/how-much-should-you-pay-an-informal-car-guard/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaheen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have the white guilt thing, so R2 max...
However, if they accost me when I&#039;m walking to my car (&quot;I&#039;ve been looking after your car Captain&quot;), I just ask them which car is mine. Wrong answer = R0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have the white guilt thing, so R2 max&#8230;<br />
However, if they accost me when I&#8217;m walking to my car (&#8220;I&#8217;ve been looking after your car Captain&#8221;), I just ask them which car is mine. Wrong answer = R0</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.shaunoakes.com/2008/09/how-much-should-you-pay-an-informal-car-guard/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t pay the drunk ones, but here is a little something to think about:

For small things, base paying the car guards on what you spent:

If you buy a coke for R5 and pay the car guard R2, that is already too much because you are paying him nearly 50% of what you spent. For small things, it&#039;s not worth paying them. If you spend R1000 at the shops, then R5 is worth it.

Also, most of the time when running into shops you will be under 10 minutes. Don&#039;t pay a car guard R5 then, because that means he earns R30 an hour which is too much considering you don&#039;t really need a car guard.

Also look at what sort of service a car guard offers. At night it&#039;s cool knowing someone is watching your car, but at daytime it&#039;s not really that necessary. And you don&#039;t need to feel guilty not paying a guy because he stood behind your car waving his arms to help you get out your parking place. 

You probably spent about R2000 or R3000 and many hours getting your drivers licence, you don&#039;t need someone to help you reverse out of a parking spot.

I don&#039;t feel guilty not paying car guards at all, because like most things in life, we can&#039;t help everyone. If you had to pay everyone R2 that begged from you, you would need another job to support giving beggars money.

I still think major shopping areas should employ one or two security guards with batons and maybe guns to watch the cars, as opposed to loads of car guards who we have to pay. At Pick &#039;n Pay you as an individual spend thousands of rands a month, making Raymond Ackerman wealthy, so why can&#039;t they incorporate security in their budget to look after the customers cars?

The corporates are more greedy than us individuals...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t pay the drunk ones, but here is a little something to think about:</p>
<p>For small things, base paying the car guards on what you spent:</p>
<p>If you buy a coke for R5 and pay the car guard R2, that is already too much because you are paying him nearly 50% of what you spent. For small things, it&#8217;s not worth paying them. If you spend R1000 at the shops, then R5 is worth it.</p>
<p>Also, most of the time when running into shops you will be under 10 minutes. Don&#8217;t pay a car guard R5 then, because that means he earns R30 an hour which is too much considering you don&#8217;t really need a car guard.</p>
<p>Also look at what sort of service a car guard offers. At night it&#8217;s cool knowing someone is watching your car, but at daytime it&#8217;s not really that necessary. And you don&#8217;t need to feel guilty not paying a guy because he stood behind your car waving his arms to help you get out your parking place. </p>
<p>You probably spent about R2000 or R3000 and many hours getting your drivers licence, you don&#8217;t need someone to help you reverse out of a parking spot.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel guilty not paying car guards at all, because like most things in life, we can&#8217;t help everyone. If you had to pay everyone R2 that begged from you, you would need another job to support giving beggars money.</p>
<p>I still think major shopping areas should employ one or two security guards with batons and maybe guns to watch the cars, as opposed to loads of car guards who we have to pay. At Pick &#8216;n Pay you as an individual spend thousands of rands a month, making Raymond Ackerman wealthy, so why can&#8217;t they incorporate security in their budget to look after the customers cars?</p>
<p>The corporates are more greedy than us individuals&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.shaunoakes.com/2008/09/how-much-should-you-pay-an-informal-car-guard/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Leon - I think it&#039;s pretty much the same here too, R2 is generally the accepted amount for a brief stop as far as I know, and even then I tend to only pay if they&#039;re waiting for me at my car. 

Otherwise I usually break off into a brisk trot hoping to outrun them. 

Once inside your car you can just crank up your music and pretend that you don&#039;t see them tapping on your window.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Leon &#8211; I think it&#8217;s pretty much the same here too, R2 is generally the accepted amount for a brief stop as far as I know, and even then I tend to only pay if they&#8217;re waiting for me at my car. </p>
<p>Otherwise I usually break off into a brisk trot hoping to outrun them. </p>
<p>Once inside your car you can just crank up your music and pretend that you don&#8217;t see them tapping on your window.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK i&#039;m from Pta so I don;t know if its different here. But any car guard getting more than R2 from me should thank his lucky stars. Any car guard getting anything for less than a half hour worth of parking should be lucky.

No my policy is nothing for places i frequent like the local Spar and at gym. If I&#039;m somewhere I don&#039;t know well and the guard actually does more than just stand there I&#039;ll give him R2 and if there is some extra circumstance like its raining or the area is really dodgy and he actually looks like he knows what he is doing i&#039;ll give him more to a absolute maximum of R5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK i&#8217;m from Pta so I don;t know if its different here. But any car guard getting more than R2 from me should thank his lucky stars. Any car guard getting anything for less than a half hour worth of parking should be lucky.</p>
<p>No my policy is nothing for places i frequent like the local Spar and at gym. If I&#8217;m somewhere I don&#8217;t know well and the guard actually does more than just stand there I&#8217;ll give him R2 and if there is some extra circumstance like its raining or the area is really dodgy and he actually looks like he knows what he is doing i&#8217;ll give him more to a absolute maximum of R5.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.shaunoakes.com/2008/09/how-much-should-you-pay-an-informal-car-guard/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks for that, Rain Man.

You&#039;re right, he was ungrateful - I think he was unnerved when he saw where I stored my wallet. 

Then again, the man smelt like deep fried onion, so he shouldn&#039;t have really had a problem with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks for that, Rain Man.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, he was ungrateful &#8211; I think he was unnerved when he saw where I stored my wallet. </p>
<p>Then again, the man smelt like deep fried onion, so he shouldn&#8217;t have really had a problem with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm . . R2-00 is enough.  If he guards 100 cars each day (not impossible in high traffic areas - that&#039;s only 6/7 cars every half hour), thats R200-00 per day, at six days a week, thats R1200-00 per week.  48 (even informal car guards need a holiday) weeks in a year.  Thats R57600-00 a year or R4800-00 per month.  Thats more than the teller at Pick &#039;n Pay makes . . . .

ps at R3-80 - thats R9120-00 per month (more than 90% of the population make) - ungrateful dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm . . R2-00 is enough.  If he guards 100 cars each day (not impossible in high traffic areas &#8211; that&#8217;s only 6/7 cars every half hour), thats R200-00 per day, at six days a week, thats R1200-00 per week.  48 (even informal car guards need a holiday) weeks in a year.  Thats R57600-00 a year or R4800-00 per month.  Thats more than the teller at Pick &#8216;n Pay makes . . . .</p>
<p>ps at R3-80 &#8211; thats R9120-00 per month (more than 90% of the population make) &#8211; ungrateful dog.</p>
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